Interview with Lais Scort

Lais Scort Sound Priestess

Lais Scort is a brazilian frequency holder, sound priestess and visibility coach for divine creators to see their true power and delight in it. She guides soul-led women to bring their inner light to shine outside through mentorship, sisterhood and music. She uses channeling, astrology, sound and radiance rituals in this realm and in the imaginal to activate the parts of you that have been hidden.

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0:33 Welcome to the confidence in singing podcast. I am Aideen. And today, my guest is coming all the way from Brazil Lais You’re so welcome. Thank you so much for joining us.

0:45 Thank you so much for having me

0:47 Well, we’re going to have a fantastic time today because your work is just so beautiful. So in alignment with my values and my beliefs around the value of voice and music, and its potential to heal. And I’m going to read a little bit of your bio so that people can kind of get a feel for kind of what the kind of the way that you’re tend to work. I’m just going to repeat that. I’m just going to read out your bio now so that people get to know you a little more. Lais Scort is a Brazilian frequency holder, sound priestess and visibility coach for divine creators to see their true power and delight in it. She guides soul led women to bring their inner light to shine, outside through mentorship, sisterhood and music. She uses channeling astrology, sound and radiance rituals in this realm, and in the imaginal to activate the parts of you that have been hidden. It leaves a lot of questions unanswered when I read that. It’s like huh, what’s the imaginal? What’s a radiance ritual? Tell us a little more about how your work developed? And what Where have you brought these gifts from?

2:10 Yeah, it’s always good when the bio brings questions, right, because that starts a conversation. I feel that with other people’s bios as well. So the imaginal realm is the realm of our subconscious is around where we create worlds within worlds. And we can, there are some places that are created already, because we collectively create and each person can create your own. So if you ever heard of shamanic journeys, which you did, we talked a little bit before. This is working on the imaginal realm. As well as there are many modalities that work with the imaginal realm. I use the shamanic journey. To sound not just the drumming, we usually use music and any sounds that come to me to help the person through it. So sometimes, little songs come or just the humming, and any other sounds that will help and support rate. And the people that I work with also end up bringing some songs of their own. So yeah, we work intertwining, the sound and the imaginal. And radiance rituals. This is a term that I coined for because everyone needs rituals to reconnect with yourself and your light, your you radiate when you are connected with that inner light that you have. And this radiance rituals can be different for everyone. We find the ways that are going to work for each person through many things, like use astrology for that as well, we didn’t find the things that work best for each person, but also just experimenting, to see what will work. That is

4:13 beautiful rituals are so undervalued. Now, I think, compared to in past generations, and I think a lot of people have become you know, they’ve kind of pushed away from any organized forms of rituals, a lot of those come from our society and from our religions. So you can create your own ritual, that’s a new concept, I’m sure for many of us.

4:40 Yeah, definitely. And I feel like we should we are in an Aquarian Age. Each person is creating different ways to work with things. I’m constantly changing my mind. Sometimes I find something that I feel like I’m gonna do this for the rest of my life. And then a few months, I’m like, Okay, time to update and I changed a little Don’t think, but it’s not like I’m leaving everything behind. It’s just I need to adapt for the changes that I’ve been through that time.

5:09 Can you give us an example of a simple rituals in case anybody’s listening going? I have no clue what she means.

5:16 Yeah, sure. So it can incorporate singing, humming, it can incorporate breathwork I use a lot of breathwork. Sometimes I use yoga as well. My rituals usually have something some form of yoga, or celestial communication, which is more like a fluid dance. With mantras, like your your patterning, you’re incorporating those beautiful sounds into your aura creating geometry around you. It can have to do with journaling as well, if you want to add that to the rituals. So basically, you’re creating a sequence of things that help you reconnect with yourself. I usually start with some chanting, I do a Kriya.

6:08 I say that one again, because I really didn’t understand that one.

6:12 Which one Kirya? Yeah, Kirya. It’s a Kundalini Yoga. We call Kirya’s what people call us asanas

6:20 our Kriya Yeah. Yeah. K.r.i.y.a. Yes. Yeah. Kriya.

6:28 Yeah. I’m familiar with that from the book. The Autobiography of a Yogi. Yes. Parmahansa Yogananda. Kriya’s are movements.

6:36 Okay. And asanas

6:40 static postures Yeah. Okay. Yeah, what’s your

6:43 so we are creating our movement. So I do that. I do some dancing, and some pounding on my chest. And some prayer, really connect. And then I do some journaling after I’m really connected. Oh,

7:03 it’s beautiful. Because I’m, I’ve been reading a book called The Morning miracle, which is about having a morning routine, which is a basically a simple kind of ritual. And I’ve been thinking very carefully about what needs to be in there to serve my soul and how much music is important to me to do something with that. So today I did more of the things I wanted to do in the morning that I have had a chance to before and it makes such a difference. I’ve started combining things. I’m a multitasker. So I need to call my mom in Ireland. So I figured out that if I’m putting on makeup, that’s when I call my mom in Ireland. So it’s like I get two things done at the same time. But that’s, I mean, you might not call that a ritual. But it is it’s about putting habits and things in place that support your day and me connecting with my mom and me looking good. They both are very important to me that so they fit with my values. And if you do anything in a mindful way, it becomes prayerful and meditative. And so think that that sometimes we can actually make simple tasks, a ritual

8:16 I would actually call that a ritual you’re connecting with your ancestrality your mom is your first connection with your ancestrality and you’re working on your temple,

8:28 my body temple. Beautiful. Can maybe we backtrack a little bit? So we know that you do all this amazing work in such an interesting way of working with people. But where did it come from? What when did you start doing? When did it start coming to you to do more work with your voice?

8:49 Yeah, the voice actually I the work with my voice. I came back it was 2019. It’s not that old. I sung before. But I had an accident in 2008. And I broke my neck. I had a lot of difficulty with breath. I couldn’t play instruments anymore. So I disconnected with that part of myself for quite a long time. Just because I didn’t sound anymore like I sounded. It was hard to sing. I even got a little bit dizzy when I went for higher nodes which were easy before and not anymore. And you know how much the posture is important for singing as well and I lost it. So it was in 2019 that I actually my my dad passed and the only thing that I could think that could help me other than gratitude and yoga which we’re helping but we’re not like, there is nothing that can really help you that much with grief as much as music. So I reconnected with singing and started singing my own songs just to process just to move things around. And actually the even before that the Kundalini yoga was helping me because the chanting was helping me reconnect with my voice. So from that it was easier for me to like, okay, I can sing because if I can chant I can see. And that helped me so much, not only to heal, but also to reconnect with my essence, that I felt like, this was always part of me, is the thing that I most enjoy about life, I need to bring that to my clients as well. So I started finding ways to reconnect that

11:00 I was, I think that’s so true if you if music is in you, if you love it, when we’re not doing that, it’s like an empty hole in our hearts sometimes. And it was certainly like that for me that whenever I didn’t sing, it was usually after some emotional event or some disappointment in my life. When Mike and I first met, we met in Dublin, and he went back to Los Angeles, and I went to Los Angeles to visit him hoping that we’d be making a plan to stay together. But it didn’t really happen then. And I didn’t think for three years, because my heart was broken. So it’s interesting, I think sometimes we feel like it’s gone forever. But it’s going back to your voice and reclaiming your power, again, through the voice is part of the healing process for that. And it can be a beautiful journey. It’s a vulnerable journey. And it can mean looking at parts of us that we don’t want to look at that carefully. But it can be beautiful, because singing, I think is such a unique thing in the way that our minds work when we’re being playful. And we’re also we our mind is more integrated when we do music. So there’s more opportunities for change.
12:29 Yeah, definitely, it’s working with everything is about vibration. So we’re working with our own vibration, our voice is the sound of our soul. It’s the it’s our own frequency in there. And we can we take so much from the vibration and frequency from things around us all the time. Even things that are in audible that are around like even radio waves and what are waves that are in their environment. And one of the easiest ways to come back to center come back to your own vibration is using your sound is humming or singing or chanting something to recalibrate, realign, really come back to who am I, without all this interference all around.

13:23 Yes, I really, that’s so true. I remember when I started meditating, the teacher would often say that the meditation helps to create space. So it’s almost like you’re able to, to push the stuff that’s bothering us or the outside world out a little further so that you feel more peace inside. And you can see things from a different perspective, a slightly more objectively, it’s like you can take a step back from life, but it takes a little bit of you have to decide to take that power back. And when we do it with the voice like you said, I believe it’s fun as well. But it also yes, it’s a vibration. And people who learn singing that aren’t maybe thinking of it as a healing tool. Actually think of their voice as like a movement of air forward. When actually I feel like our bodies are more like a tuning fork. Like it’s like you hold self vibrates. And it the sound ripples because we can hear someone when they say something when we’re when we’re behind them often if they’re if they’re using their voice. Well, and so I love to think that that vibration as well as infinite because it’s moving through the walls and outside the room. And my mother is she was a music. She’s a musician and she does choir music. And she would feel that anything like you know, St. Augustine would have said singing is like praying twice. So it’s double the strength. And she really believes in that vibration is moving through, and it has a continuity. It’s it’s not like when you stop singing that it’s that the vibration stops, it has to go somewhere it gets absorbed by the walls maybe of the house. So the the walls hold that vibration or hold that prayer. Or if you see near water, who knows how far that vibration can go? It’s actually exciting to think of it that way.

15:22 I absolutely agree with all that you’re saying. And actually, those are the things that I believe as well. Even one of my songs talks about patterning things and into stones into water into anything. Because that was what we’re doing. We are patterning those frequencies, the words of power, the sound have power, when we are singing or speaking. We’re actually shaping lifeforce itself, the breath into sound.

15:51 This is that’s beautiful, I understand what you’re saying, shaping this life force into something because we know that this oxygen around us it’s like this invisible energy, it supports us we don’t even take we don’t even know it’s there. We breathe it all the time. We couldn’t live without it. And when we take it in and make sound with it, it’s like, I see that that’s like the invisible energy of the Divine that we’re taking in and then co creating, I knew that we had so much in alignment have in common that this is exciting to talk about sound in this way. And I really appreciate you being on on the podcast, because it makes me just so happy to talk about it this way. And I’m getting a little emotional as well, because it feels like a part of me wants to talk about that more.

16:41 I absolutely love talking about this. So yeah, so grateful that you invited me.

16:48 Yes. And like every everything that we say, you know, even this podcast, and the way that we put out the podcast has, you know, it has longevity. And it can, when someone hears this the way we’re talking about sons, and they if they agree with that, and understand that it becomes a living energy with them, that they may speak about, again to someone else. And it is creating that domino effect. And I feel like there’s power in that a gentle and very persistent power.

17:20 I want to pick up on what you’re saying, because you mentioned the ripple that sound creates. And that’s also something that hazrat inayat khan is a Sufi master talks about the sound never and just continues expanding and expanding and expanding into the universe. So that is beautiful. And at the same time, it is a little bit scary, because something that you said, it will continue there. So we need to be mindful of what we are putting out as well. But also it creates, like you mentioned like space, it can create, we can use our sound great, like a bubble have some sort of protection in our vibration, like our space, our vibration, our and this is just about using our intentional energy to create that. And also, if patterning anything to sound, we can create, like substantial change to the sounds through the words that we create. So if we sing something, and it’s good to pay attention, what we’re seeing is well, often we start picking up on that energy of those words. So for if we want something and that song has what we want, it can help. If it’s not what we want, it can be a bad thing. Yeah. So like

18:56 it’s reinforcing something that you don’t want. And I’ve noticed that when I work with students, because I always asked them to bring their own songs. And if they’re feeling very sad about a love lost, or, you know, they often will bring those very sad songs. So it becomes a journey to get the song becomes a way to heal, heal that pain. But also at a certain point, I have to say to the maybe we need to pick something happier to sing, you know, because that journey has to come to something and we shouldn’t get stuck.

19:32 Yeah, and I also feel that songs can be part of because when we create a song, sometimes we don’t usually we don’t even know where those words come from. And where those sounds come from. I believe that is Spirit working through us and we first other people believe some some different things, but that’s the way I see it. And sometimes you don’t even fully understand something that’s in there and Someone will listen to that. And we will back that, or maybe even us in a while, we’re going to listen to that. And understand. And that happened to me both with my songs with and other people’s songs. Like, there’s one phrase in there, or sometimes a whole song that activates something, remember, it’s something that like, Oh, now I understand. And that happens with books as well, it’s, but there’s something about music that goes into ourselves into our subconscious very easily. Even when we think, Oh, I didn’t get it, but it activates something at some point.

20:43 That’s an exciting thought. So it’s activating a portal into a new, a new way of thinking or new way of being. I actually had put out a song before Christmas last year called rule the world. It’s a cover version of a boyband song. And one of my, my friends that I made online during this year, who is a development coach and she works with people she was listening to it while she was walking down the street, and she told me the story that she couldn’t keep walking. While she’s listening, she had to stop to listen. And she said, she got like emotional listening. And I was like, Oh, my goodness, you know, because it’s such a, it’s such a compliment. And I do love to, to bring pure energy with my songs, if I can, before I recorded that song, I would have done some like practices to like balance my own chakras and, you know, say, a few mantras, especially for the divine feminine, that’s one thing that I do. So that’s like, my secret trick that now you know, everybody knows. And, but I feel that it was not me, you know, purely it was me bringing through a very pure energy. And I work quite hard to maintain my energy at a level that is more pure than the part of me that is so frustrated all the time, or that I have my natural self is quite impatient, and, you know, lazy and, you know, I have lots of traits that like, I have to know, it’s not that I want to repress them, but I need to be able to, to notice those things. And to choose sometimes, to choose an action rather than a reaction. And that’s what meditation really helps you to do. Because is, when you have when you can step back from something, when you have more space around you. You can see yourself more clearly. And also when when Mike says to me Aideen when you spoke to that waitress, she was like really put, you know, she really noticed your tone change, because you weren’t happy about whatever it was. And I remember him saying it to me. And I think he had said it to me twice. But the second time, he said it to me, I went and I said, almost like I made a really sincere prayer, that my voice only transmits kindness and that even when I’m upset, and I think that, you know, standards are really low, that I’ll always be that I’ll I’ll communicate in a kind way. And that my voice and the energy of my voice will have that love in there, even when it’s, I’m speaking about something I’m unhappy about. And the next time that actually happened, my voice sounded completely I was like, Oh, I’m not I didn’t even think about it. My this like the it really worked. You know, the, the sincerity of the prayer was was I got I was assisted in some way and it just hasn’t been a problem in the same way and occasionally I have to my mind will go there, my mind will go with Oh, no, you know, this isn’t right. Or you know, I have a standard for a service you know, when I go to restaurants and that I like to see and it’s terrible. But I I suppose because I worked in service industries and stuff like that. And there’s different levels everywhere. But am I more careful No. And I notice my mind going there and and if it’s going to be unkind there’s just no point I mean, I’d prefer to have a bad I’m just gonna say a cup of tea because I can you know, the tea here when I go out for to the restaurants is i It’s it I like a nice cup of tea in Ireland cup of tea is our favorite thing. So anyway, I’m digressing from your story Lais. So let’s come back.

24:41 I actually love that you mentioned that you have your rituals for coming back to rituals before singing, because that’s a big thing as well. Of course, once we get into singing, the singing itself will make us feel better, but especially when you recording something that you’re going to share with someone, and it doesn’t have to be only singing, it can be even if you’re speaking or you’re recording a video or something like that. But especially for singing, because like I said, it goes directly into the subconscious. We want to be mindful of what energy we’re bringing to that. And I do as well, I have some processes that I do that include, of course, some of the rough work in my case. So yeah, rough work, yeah. And also be mindful of how I’m probably not processing how I’m channeling the sound to each chakra, I’m channeling and so on. Because if we communicate through the heart, usually we have more of a open, loving, compassionate energy that we need so much. And I feel that music should come from that center. Of course, you can work with other higher chakras and with the aura and so on. But coming from the heart is the thing that will actually create a better work.

26:14 Definitely. So the well I’ll tell you how, what I do, right when I’m working with something similar, I draw the energy up from the lower chakras and I draw the energy down from the higher chakras, and then everything through the heart. So that’s trying to include everything is

26:30 so interesting. Yeah, it’s so interesting that for us similar

26:35 must be we must have similar spirit guides or something going on. It’s beautiful thing, and you know, maybe somebody just in going I don’t know about any of that stuff. But you know, when you believe in something, and when you feel like I actually if I do mantra before I start singing my voice, audibly changes, I could hear a difference.

27:00 Yeah, I noticed it too.

27:02 Yeah. So if I hadn’t been doing as many warm ups as I should have, I need those prayers extra. Yeah. So has that has singing had any other unexpected benefits in your life that that you didn’t realize? And if you hadn’t been singing for such a long time? And then you started what? Like, what kind of result? Or we’re going to change? Did you notice and Did anything surprise you?

27:31 Main thing, my confidence in myself. This was a big thing. And I know that your business even brings that up.

27:44 It’s

27:46 everyone, not just for me, I see the change in confidence for anyone who starts singing because you start listening to yourself. And for me, I had that before. And losing it was a big loss of confidence for me, because it was so ingrained in my identity, who I was, and not having that was like, Okay, who am I without this? And I had a lot of who am I without this? Moments and things, especially with going to a wheelchair and all these things, but the voice is still like, it’s so much part of my essence that it was really like, who am I without is it and reconnecting with that was, I really feel like this was the big thing that brought me back to myself. And I started getting more confidence in speaking and talking about my my thoughts in sharing my, my ideas and my vision of the world. But more than that, when we go into creating songs to that, it both helped me see a wisdom coming through me and I say true, because I truly believe it’s not me necessarily. It’s me working with something greater that those teachings helped me and also have helped me see that there are things that can come to me that don’t come when I’m just talking about other things. And also processing things for myself because when you write a song, you can start in a very low moment. Sometimes you are that bottom, but you can chew the process of creating a song. transmute that energy into something way higher and start getting The insight and getting the lesson that sometimes it would take years for you to understand. But in one songwriting session, you can unpack all those things beautifully. And then like, really anchor that true song.

30:17 I can feel that energy is beautiful. And and I mean, just to reiterate what you’re saying that there’s a value to writing a song for just you.

30:27 Yeah, doesn’t have to be for anyone else. Let me just yours.

30:33 That’s really important, I think, for everybody to hear. Because I mean, I love to say to people, you know, you sing in the car, you sing in the shower, you are a singer. Because for me, I was asked, what was my dream, and I said, I want to be a singer. But I can’t do that. It was like completely backwards, I saw that word singer as meaning something different from what it actually means, which is somebody who sings. And songwriting I think, is something that anybody can play with, and try and do, and use as a healing tool as well.

31:11 Yeah, it is a huge healing to her that, I know that so many of the singers, that I like, true artists do this for themselves. First, they they’re not, there’s a difference between being a performer and being an artist. And you can be both. But the artist is doing that. Because they need to put that out of their chest, they need to create something we all are artists, in my vision, everyone is creative. We just need to work through that. And be open to create because I even have a teacher, a kundalini yoga teacher, who recently passed, Guru Jagat, who says that there’s only so much you can go into the creative path without having a spiritual connection. Because initially, you have that lucky energy of who’s just starting, and so on, and you might have some interesting ideas and so on. But if you’re not open to be a channel, to receive things, your stories will and and you don’t have anything else to say. But if you’re open to receive you, it’s a resource that never dies.

32:39 I think there’s so much in that. And I think our the way that society and education is we’re we’re very much taught to close things down to kind of work things out when our minds, and you know, that concept of leaving space for something to come in, that you go out for a walk. And somehow you feel different about the whole situation. And it wasn’t your brain that figured that out, it was being in nature, it was the trees that helped you figure it out, maybe, and how underestimated is a beautiful lake or the trees for, you know, if we’re open and we’re just being we can breathe in that a healing force that Mother Earth is providing for us all the time, too.

33:27 Yeah, that’s beautiful. And that sounds the

33:29 sounds of nature, a beautiful song to that vibration. I have a huge, you know, we talk about air being the source of sound, you know, when we take in some air and we don’t need a lot of air to sing. So I try to remind people of that, you know, that we need very little air to actually sing. But when I see the wind blowing through the trees, and that air, creating the sound of the rustling trees, and the leaves start, you know, whispering, and I start waving back at them going, because I’m like, so excited to hear the sound. Anyway, I’m showing all of my craziness today, which is all good. I feel like you can understand my craziness Lais.

34:11 I can understand that. And yeah, listening to the silence, which is never silence by the way. There’s always some sound in there. It’s a great source of inspiration. And people are so anxious these days that I feel like even in conversations I started laughing these days because some people feel the need to and this might be someone who’s listening, feel the need to fill every single silent moment with sound. Know when you’re talking to someone and they’re like, okay, okay, yeah, yeah. I started laughing because I know that it’s like silence is uncomfortable. There are two things that people really feel on for both silence and eye gazing, like when you Oh, yeah, eyes, people feel like, don’t don’t look at me what you’re seeing, I know that the eyes are windows for the soul, we feel really, like you’re seeing right through me. But I find it interesting that the two things that really help us see and hear the connection that we all have are the things that people feel scared of.

35:30 Completely. I mean, I love teaching about silence in terms of singing, because it’s in the silence that the breath is received. But if we’re worried about the breath coming in, and we take that active breath that an inexperienced singer will tend to do, or, I mean, there’s other reasons, anxiety or anything like that, if you’re nervous, but when we don’t trust our body, to take in some air, we can’t be fully present in that silent moment. The other thing that happens if we are singing a song, sometimes we will be thinking about the next line straightaway, when we finished the last one, instead of allowing the last line to resonate for a moment. So there’s some beauty and some real deep lessons in in learning, just saying something, and to feel into the silences of the sound. And I love that that came up in our conversation, because it’s beautiful.

36:37 Yeah, that’s so interesting to just say this, maybe that’s why so many people have difficulty to sink in time. Like you’re always chasing the next line.

36:51 Definitely, definitely,

36:54 it makes total sense.

36:55 You know, self consciousness, really, when we’re too conscious of ourselves, it disrupts our listening skills. So if there’s music playing, and there’s a beat, we can’t hear the beat, if we’re worried, like, if we’re really, like, scared of the, you know, forgetting something. So learning to to be very present, has to come into learning to sing, because you have to be present, you have to trust that you’ve got it, you have to trust that if you don’t have it, that you can get over that and move on. And you have to trust that you know, you’re good enough in that moment, because nobody’s perfect. Very few performances are ever perfect. And certainly, you’ll never find one performance that everyone in the whole world would love. to true. So you’re enough.

37:45 And actually, yeah, and everyone has a beautiful voice. Some people will say I disagree, my voice is terrible, or whatever it is. Someone would like your voice. And it started with you liking your voice, of course. Because people don’t listen to themselves enough. I feel like even just the habit of recording yourself on your phone. And listening back can be a good exercise to really know you. Because usually people like I like this is my voice doesn’t sound like me and so on. And of course, there’s the whole, like we’re talking about the sound not being just the air that we push out. It’s the whole resonance. And yes, there is a different sound that we have. Because our bones are vibrating in our face and in our head. And yes, the voice will sound different for us, men for others, but it’s good for you to know how you sound outside yourself.

38:43 Definitely. And love that too. Yes. It’s definitely a stage I always say to singers, don’t record yourself until you’re ready to have some self compassion and self love. Because we don’t always hear what we want to hear, especially if we’re learning to sing or for some, you know, or we’re learning to do a speech, we’re going to make some mistakes. So to kind of go, Oh, oops, I made a mistake there. Or you know, to be very gentle and playful and childlike. And is really one of the things that I think makes it easier for me to teach singing is that I bring everybody back to just the joyful feeling of making your own making sound yourself.

39:21 I love that just said that because I’m the same. It must it is one of the most joyful things to do. Singing is something that kids love. They’re just laughing and making funny sounds and creating their own songs and the very thing that people lose the thing that people lose that at some point, either because someone said Oh Your voice is not good or you can’t sing or coming back to that thing of it has to be a performance. No, it doesn’t have Have to be performed if you’re performing sure you want to improve your performance. But singing on itself can be good for you, even if you’re not thinking of performing or creating something that needs to be perfect. And even the need to be perfect, even for performance is something that it doesn’t make sense. Because if you think of your favorite songs, usually it’s in those moments where it’s not perfect that you feel the most emotion, and that it’s just beautiful. And a voice cracks by people love that raspiness, in some singers voice, that’s not perfect. But it sounds great, because we feel the emotion that

40:51 it’s very real. Yeah, yeah. And there’s, I think there’s a lot of misconceptions as to what good singing is. I mean, if you listen to someone like Bob Dylan, who was an iconic singer, and he didn’t have a great voice, he didn’t sing in tune a lot of the time. But he put his heart into it. So that heart thing coming back to that. And when I have worked with students, it’s always been about don’t stand up there and try to be perfect, just put your heart into the message of that song. And be the channel for that message. And don’t be so self conscious, if you can at all and enjoy it. Because it’s liberating to sing. It’s freedom and is, especially if you’re around other people who are supportive. And you have some, you know, some, like a team or support around, you’re around being all everyone learning together. It’s just a wonderful. It’s a wonderful dynamic. And it’s very, very beautiful.

41:52 Yeah, and if anyone is worried about pitch as well, of course, in a performance, well, there are some things for performance as well. But everyone in the industry of music tunes their voices these days. So don’t think everyone who’s playing the radio is perfect. They’re not perfect. They’re focusing on the emotion first, as well. It’s just that the tools to help them are there.

42:19 Yes. And I know this for a fact, because Mike is music producer. So as soon as he gets his hands on my vocals, he picks it apart for anything that doesn’t sound now and then, you know, you have to judge it, some things are not worth changing, and some things are worth changing. But there’s I mean, I don’t even sound as good as my recordings.

42:41 Yeah, maybe I did this for myself. And it’s a humbling experience to see like, Okay, this is something that I want to keep. But this, of course, you don’t want to sound like a robot, unless you’re going for that super autotuning. But there are some things that the the performance was exactly what needed to be. And for recording, you need to make it just a tiny bit better. So you just adjust that. Exactly. That’s okay. That’s

43:16 okay. Yeah, that’s okay. And like you said, everything we hear on the radio, you know, especially the newer music is very, it’s, you know, auto tuned or pitch corrected in some way and often. And also, you know, when you’re recording, you get to sing it three or four times each row, you know, each line three or four times in the song four or five times. So you just pick the best bits. So like, from beginning to end, you haven’t done it perfectly, but with everything that you did that day, you’ll get a really good performance.

43:46 Yeah. Yet I always both for me and for clients. I always go for the most like heartfelt yes performance, even if it’s the pitches not always perfect. Over up perfect pitch thing that doesn’t have the emotion there. Because you’re so self conscious of singing correctly.

44:13 Absolutely. I would really agree with that. So we’ve kind of we’ve run on I’ve been loving their conversation so much that I let it run on a little longer than I was expecting to. So is there anything else you’d like to say to anybody listening today?
44:31 Yeah, so bring the fun back to if you’re going to sing if you’re going to create anything. Don’t make it like I have to or I should be doing this. What would be fun for you to do? This is the the advice that I would would give. What would be fun for you to do what would be bring your joy because singing can elevate your energy so much If you only allow yourself to go there with no expectation, no need to judge yourself and just have fun, and the best things come from it. That’s beautiful.

45:12 I agree. Love that. Now, if anyone wants to find out more about your work, and would you like to tell people a little bit about how you work with people and what they can expect from you, if they go looking by for your website?

45:29 Yeah, sure, I have more than one way that people can work with me. So I do, we talk a little bit about journeys, I do this sound sanctuary, which is journey with sound through sound. And this is always tailored to the person’s needs, whatever someone needs to experience, to go train an initiation or create anything for themselves. So that’s really beautiful, and helps them block a lot of things. And I also work with clients to the sound catharsis, which is helping either heal or transmute or create something through sound. It’s a little bit of that, creating a song for yourself. And if someone wants to go deeper into that, we can work with that as well. But really just transmitting a story, for example, can be so healing. So we worked with that.

46:34 Is that like a manifestation tool as well?

46:38 He could be Yeah, you can use that if you want. Yeah, creating a song can be for anything. And there’s a lot of word magic and sound magic into it. We go through all these beautiful things. I just love it. And also for artists that are going to creative blocks. I also have a session for that, too. Yeah, clear those blocks and get into that connection with spirit that’s so necessary in creating and sometimes artists has a spiritual side that has a tough time merging the two parts. And yeah, that’s

47:18 sounds amazing. And I hope that there’s some of the listeners take you up on that invitation to to work with you. Because it sounds very deep and profound, in terms of like you’re going going to places where someone might not ever get the chance to go unless they have someone that they trust. And that can guide them through that. And I think that’s really what shamanic work is, but where you become a guide. I haven’t trained in that. And but I I understand that, that it is very much a spiritual journey with someone who knows how to navigate that, so that you’re not trying to do it by yourself.

48:00 Yeah, actually, everyone is it its own guide. And one thing that I love about shamanic work is, it’s really playful. It’s really bringing that child back. It’s ripping the layers off identity and all the things that we think we need to be, it’s really going back to the essence. And of course, you want to do this feeling safe, or someone that that’s working with you. You can do it alone as well, because actually, each person is it their own guide, just taking them there. And from there, they can create whatever they want.

48:36 Wonderful. Well, we’ll I’ll be including your contact details in the show notes for the podcast, wherever you’re accessing it from. And thank you everybody who’s been listening. It’s been a wonderful conversation. I’ve had a lot of fun. And I feel like we’ve made really good friends. So I look forward to talking with you more in the future. And is there anything else that you’d want to say? Or will we wrap it up? I

49:05 think we can wrap up.

49:07 That’s beautiful. A sweet ending is always so nice. And so thank you so much for bringing your beautiful energy to us on the confidence in singing podcast. It’s been an absolute pleasure. Thank you Lais and we will see you all again at the next episode of the confidence in singing podcast. Bye bye

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