The Bride Who Learned to Sing for Her Husband-to-be

What would happen if you turned love into a song—and dared to sing it out loud?
In this moving episode, Aideen shares the story of Caryn, who—at nearly 60 and new to singing—decided to record a love song for her wedding. Inspired by an Instagram clip of a groom hearing his bride’s voice for the first time, Caryn set out to learn, record, and reveal her heart through music in just two months.

Together, we explore how she moved from perfectionism to presence, finding her voice not just in melody but in life. You’ll hear:

🎵 How to choose a song that fits your story (and your range!)
🎵 Why the right emotion matters more than hitting every note
🎵 How regular lessons and practice create confidence
🎵 The emotional shift from “Am I good enough?” to “This is my truth”

Caryn’s story is a reminder that meaning beats mastery and brave beats perfect. Her voice became a mirror for courage, reshaping how she shows up in love, family, and work.

If you’ve ever felt it’s too late to start something new, this conversation will remind you: it’s never too late to free your voice and follow your heart.

Aideen Ni Riada: 0:03

Welcome to the Resonate Podcast with Aideen. I’m Aideen Ni Riada, and my guest today is Caryn Rinaldo. I’m so excited to introduce Caryn. She took the brave step to learn to sing and record for her wedding all within just a couple of months. Caryn joins us from Seattle in the USA. Hi, Caryn. Hi, Aideen. So we’ve been on an amazing journey together. But tell the listeners what initially inspired you to take this journey?

Caryn Rinaldo: 0:36

Uh well, I am a I was a first-time bride at almost 60 years old. And I was fiddling around on Instagram, and when you’re looking at wedding things, all of the other wedding things pop up. And there was a video that came up, and there was a a woman who had recorded a song and she it was being played as she walked down the aisle towards her groom. And um the the caption said, showing his face being really emotional, uh, that he was just realizing that it’s her singing. And I was just really touched by that. And I thought, oh, that’s kind of cool.

Aideen Ni Riada: 1:17

I wonder if I could do that. Yeah, that was, I mean, it’s such a beautiful aspiration. But what was it the emotional element? Like it was it the the way that he was responding. It wasn’t because you love to sing and that you were wanting to show off your singing. No, not at all.

Caryn Rinaldo: 1:35

It was the look on his face. He he was kind of rocking back and forth and he was biting his lip and he was trying to hold his emotion in. And my now husband is that kind of guy, you know. I’ve never seen him cry, and uh, you know, I don’t know. I just wanted to to to give him something that would really touch his heart.

Aideen Ni Riada: 1:57

That’s beautiful. And I mean, I I I know a lot of people know this how different music can communicate the emotions. It’s like a deeper communication than just words alone.

Caryn Rinaldo: 2:12

Yeah, I um I it’s interesting you say that because I’m not a big music listener. I didn’t grow up in a home where my parents listened to music. I think they had one album that was played on the record player on occasion, and it was ABBA, the first ABBA album. Um, my folks didn’t listen to the radio in the car. Um, so the music really wasn’t on. My dad did sing with us in the car. Uh, he’d sing all kinds of crazy stuff from the 50s and you know, teach us silly songs that we we really liked. But it wasn’t music, it wasn’t a big part of my life. And um this was the whole experience was really a lesson in just how profoundly music can can express um express your emotions. Uh, it gave me also a lot more respect for musicians themselves and just how how challenging this is. I think we talked about and laughed how um how in the world does Beyoncé dance and sing at the same time. You know, I certainly wasn’t uh going to do a live performance that was too intimidating. I needed something where, you know, my mistakes I could go over and record it again.

Aideen Ni Riada: 3:31

So you knew you you weren’t going to do it live. Um, but somewhere in the back of your mind you thought, if I could do it as a recording, there’s some there’s a way that I can do this well enough that it will be good enough for your wedding. But what kind of background did you have with singing? What made you believe that maybe that might be possible?

Caryn Rinaldo: 3:51

Um, so I didn’t come really from any singing background, but at some point someone told me that it is very rare that people are actually tone deaf. So I think when a lot of us here, if we happen to catch ourselves singing on a recording, and then we go, oh my gosh, I’m tone deaf. It sounds horrible. Um, that was that piece of knowledge that it was rare for someone to be tone deaf was helpful to me because I thought, well, I’m probably not just by odds. So maybe I can learn to sing. But the other thing that really helped is it was a surprise for my fiancee. And I just thought, if it doesn’t turn out, well, I don’t have to do it. I don’t have to play it. You know, there was plenty, plenty of other songs I could play. Um, but as the process went on, I certainly began owning it more and I wanted it to work.

Aideen Ni Riada: 4:45

Well, I was so happy that you decided to take that journey with me, Karen. And I had actually that page on my website that says, you know, sing a song at your own wedding, because to me it was about that emotion and about that um sharing of your heart through a song, which is what I love to help people to do. Um, and you really were so brave. I really admire that you were willing to give it a try. And like you said, you didn’t have to necessarily give it to, you know, use it on the day if it didn’t turn out well, but you I think you must have deep down know that there was there was something in you that wanted to to take that journey, that maybe there was a part of you wanted to sing regardless of whether it was for the wedding or not. Is that true?

Caryn Rinaldo: 5:36

I think deep down, um, because one of the most surprising things about the process was that I was missing an artistic outlet in my life. There was there was a part of me that just almost was like a plate full of food that I just couldn’t stop eating. It was just kind of addictive. And I think what it did was it took me off my normal, my normal thinking track and my normal feeling track, and it put me on a on a different, it’s just a different way of seeing the world. And I think artists would be listening to this and going, well, of course. But to me, it was completely foreign. And so it was it was almost addictive to have that that outlet that was a something very different that I was doing during during my days.

Aideen Ni Riada: 6:24

Yeah, because you come from the a corporate background, you worked as an executive assistant, you’re you know, working to deadlines, you’re always organizing, and so that’s a part of our brains that’s the linear, more logical side. So do you feel like when you started singing, it awakened a different part of you?

Caryn Rinaldo: 6:44

It did. I remember specifically and uh from our first few lessons, you were you were constantly reeling me back in in a gentle way of, you know, don’t analyze the heck out of it. And after a few lessons, I think I stopped doing that.

Aideen Ni Riada: 7:00

It is really hard not to do bring your analytical mind to it. So that’s what you were doing, is you were trying to do the creative thing, trying to do the playful journey of learning, right? Right. But your adult, critical, linear mind was picking what you were doing apart, and that was slowing the process of learning down.

Caryn Rinaldo: 7:25

Definitely, yeah, definitely. When I learned to to kind of trust your coaching and just go, okay, do what she says, just don’t even think about it. Because I could see, you know, week after week, it was it was getting better. I would be singing to myself in the car, and I’d think, oh my gosh, that was a sweet note. It was actually sweet. And um that excited me. I couldn’t believe that noise was coming out of me. Yeah, I’m so glad.

Aideen Ni Riada: 7:54

The this, I’m kind of wondering what you would say to someone who has a madhat idea like yours to learn to sing in a short period of time for something like their wedding or for another occasion. What would you say to them?

Caryn Rinaldo: 8:11

I I would say, I mean, if that if that is if that is a seed that seems to be growing in you, don’t hesitate to do it. Um for me, when I listened to that Instagram video, I’ve told you this before, but I was really glad that I didn’t notice who the singer was when I first listened to it. Because I listened to the video, I got excited about it, I Googled learn how to sing a song and record it for your wedding, and your website came up. And you’re from, you know, you’re from way across the country. We did this completely remotely, and I got into it in a couple lessons, and then I went back to that video and I was already committed. And it turned out that that singer was someone from The Voice. And the saddest part of the whole thing is if I had seen that that was a singer from The Voice, I probably would have just thrown the idea out. It literally was, um, I think it’s one of the most um groundbreaking things I’ve done in my life to put this element into it where I have an artistic outlet. And and don’t get me wrong, I’m not gonna not gonna go on the road and quit my day job. It’s it’s literally, you know, it’s like a painting for me. People shouldn’t shouldn’t hesitate. And, you know, even if somebody looks at you and says, Yeah, but you know, I’ve heard you sing, you’re not good. Don’t, don’t, don’t let them, don’t let them tell you that because it’s amazing how you can go from hearing a recording of yourself at at the beginning, and then the things you can do through lessons like with you to change that. I mean, the the quality of how I sang at the end was kind of night and day. Yeah. I mean, and it wasn’t it wasn’t a big huge stretch, I don’t think. It was really getting my mind out of the way and allowing allowing my body and my my emotions and my feelings to come through. Yeah, as you well know, we’re gonna continue these lessons.

Aideen Ni Riada: 10:16

Definitely, and of course, the song that you chose is very heartfelt. Tell us a little bit about that song.

Caryn Rinaldo: 10:24

Well, it’s actually the song that was on the video uh that I watched the Instagram video. It was the initial song, and I immediately went out and I thought, well, maybe you could sing it. Um, and I found the original artist, her name’s Ruel. The song is I get to love you, and tried to sing it along with her, and uh it was a bit of a stretch. Um, but in the end, you know, what happened was, you know, you guys helped me get backing track that was the right, the right um key for me, and um that all worked out. But that song, it was funny. I mean, I I looked at other songs because it wasn’t just I thought, well, I’ll just do exactly what the video was, but there were so many words in the song that um that touched me and the the concept of I get to love you, uh this being the first time I’ve been married, it does feel like I get to love him. You know, finally I get this this person, this wonderful person in my life to partner with for however long we have left.

Aideen Ni Riada: 11:33

Yes. And there’s a beautiful line in there, you know, that I prayed for you. And what other lyrics in there were really meaningful for you?

Caryn Rinaldo: 11:44

Uh, I think one of the ones that grew on me was um, I get to love you, it’s the best thing that I’ll ever do. At the beginning, when I was practicing that, I kind of stumbled over that concept. I’m like, really? Is that the best thing I’ll ever do? Not that it wasn’t great, but I think it took me singing that song and the lyrics and then thinking, yeah, this is super important. There’s nothing more important than this relationship. Opening up and loving someone. Yes, and and in that deep husband and wife partnership way, it helped me understand that even though we’re not gonna have kids this late day, we are a family, the two of us, and and we’re going forward together.

Aideen Ni Riada: 12:36

It is different when you I mean, I also got married a little later in life, age 44, and you know, we become less flexible sometimes as we get older. Um, we think we know what works for us, and there’s certain things we maybe have decided that are things we won’t compromise on. And then when you And we haven’t had to up to that point, we haven’t had to, we have haven’t had anyone challenging some of these notions that we have, and then when you really love someone, it’s like, okay, I could, you know, I can choose to make a big deal about this little thing that you know I’ve decided is important, or I can choose to be more relaxed and and try and see it from the other person’s point of view. So there is it’s a beautiful journey that you we go on, you know, finding love at any age, is a beautiful journey. But as when you’re older and you are understanding that, it’s like you watching yourself doing that and changing life as a person, you change in order to let more love in.

Caryn Rinaldo: 13:46

Yeah, and I think that’s a concept that our society, at least from my point of view as a woman, you know, I kind of got told I was the 80s were the my high school college years, and those were the years that you know women were picking up their briefcases and going out into the corporate world, you know, and you know, it was the message was from then on, you know, don’t compromise. You shouldn’t compromise. Um, but you can’t have a relationship if you don’t compromise somewhat. So uh back to those words, I get to love you, it’s the best thing that I’ll ever do. That’s really humbling because it it turns your head and focuses it on look, this is this is the most important thing. No matter what’s going on around, this is the most important thing.

Aideen Ni Riada: 14:40

Describe that moment when you were walking down the aisle, hearing your own voice filling the air.

Caryn Rinaldo: 14:46

So it was summertime, August wedding. I put some folding fans on each of the chairs, and there was a small note card about two inches by two inches, and the outside said shh and open me. And they opened it and it said, you know, shh, don’t tell Rick, but I learned to sing a song um to show him uh my love on our wedding day, and this is a song that we’ll be playing as a recording uh as I walk up the aisle. And Pastor Dan will be telling him just before that happens. And so, and that’s exactly what happened. Dan, Pastor Dan leaned in and he said, Hey, Rick, he said, the song that she’s walking up the aisle to is a song that she learned to sing and and had recorded. And I had predicted what Rick would say, and that is, but she can’t sing. And um, so Dan just smiled and signaled the guy and started the music. And when I first heard the music, you have to remember I sang this song probably hundreds of times. A couple that hundreds, yeah. A couple thousand. I mean, I was singing in the car every day on the way to work. I was singing in the car every day on the way back. We had two lessons a week. I mean, I never stopped singing that song, it was just constant. So when it started, I um I was so busy trying to stay in the moment of remembering what it felt like to walk down the aisle. And I also wanted to glance off to the right, which is where all the chairs were, because I wanted to just kind of see the people, those loved ones that were there, and just plant that in my head. And I’m really glad I did that because I have that mental picture now. But then I turned and looked at him, and when I got up to him, um the song was still playing, and we were gonna go light these memorial candles um for our fathers and broth, my brother who’s uh who are deceased. And um he his eyes were just so so teary, you know, very watery. And um he just he just had the softest smile on his face, and I think he was just overwhelmed.

Aideen Ni Riada: 17:07

And it’s overwhelming enough, you know, getting to that point in your life and standing there at the just before you’re gonna say your vows.

Caryn Rinaldo: 17:16

It’s yeah, and this was extra, extra overwhelming. It was, and it it was it was so so worth it. Um, and even if the song hadn’t turned out even half as good as it did, I still would have played it because by that time I was I was just owning it and attached to the idea, and I knew that the people that were at my wedding or people that loved me, and you know, if there were a couple of sour things in there, they you know, they would have thought it was sweet, and they and they did, you know. So um it it was it was the one of the best things I did for the wedding. And Rick told me this morning, he said, had you not done that, he still that it still would have been a beautiful wedding. He said, but you know, hands down, it was it was the biggest highlight for him.

Aideen Ni Riada: 18:11

That’s beautiful.

Caryn Rinaldo: 18:12

Yeah, so it yeah, anybody who wants to try it should absolutely try it. You can take comfort in, hey, if it doesn’t work out, you learn to sing a little bit better and you don’t have to use the song. But I think you have to go into it not thinking you’re gonna be the singer from the voice, you know. Yeah, just to be yourself. Yeah. Um, and and remember, you know, most people are not tone-deaf. So, and when I sing, I still, when I sing now, I’ll sing something to the radio in the car, and I’ll hear, you know, places it doesn’t sound good. And I don’t any longer think to myself, oh, that’s awful, you shouldn’t sing. I just sit and think, oh, well, that’s one of those things you just kind of work with and you figure out, you know, whether it’s through a teacher or on your own, how to would how to adjust it so you can hit it. And the first thing is it may not be in the right key for you.

Aideen Ni Riada: 19:07

So yes, that’s a good good point. You know, a lot of people don’t realize that not every song is within the range of notes that your voice is most comfortable. Um, so you learned a huge amount about that whole process of going through, you learned about you know, timing, about you know, melody, about harmony, and you know, as well as like how singers produce the words, which is quite different to how we say the words. Oh, it’s totally different. And I know from the journey that we took that you know, it wasn’t just about singing that we were talking, you know. There, you know, you would you would be arriving at the lesson and something might be going on in your life because sometimes it’s very hard to sing when we are feeling emotional or when we’re feeling angry or when we’re under a lot of stress. What did you like? Did you find there was uh uh a type of kind of friendship that grew that you know you could you were able to share how you really were, other than just uh how your voice was, other than just how you were going to be able to sing?

Caryn Rinaldo: 20:18

Yeah, absolutely. I think I think you are a very easy person to have that kind of relationship with. I don’t think it was necessarily something specific between you and me. Um I I think that I think that the biggest lesson from from all of that was just how much my emotions affect my output. And I don’t mean just with singing. Um you can come in. There were days that I came in that I didn’t think I was upset about anything, and it would kind of spill out, um, you know, because I’d be having trouble and I’d get frustrated, and then we’d end up talking about what was really going on. It wasn’t something I was trying to hide from you, it was probably something I didn’t even know was upsetting me. Um and then learning to accept that, you know, there were gonna be days where, you know, I’d hit those things really well, and you’d say, Oh, that was good, that was very sweet, very pure, you know. Just, you know, a couple of notes that I’d hit there. Seeing, seeing how, you know, some things were beautiful and some things weren’t so beautiful. It was just a just constant reminder of that’s just how life is, you know. Um, so yeah, and being able to talk to you and then noticing after I’d talk to you about something, how I’d gone from barely being able to sing at all to being able to kind of be back on track. Um huge lesson just just for everything. Um, you know, my relationship with my husband, uh, my relationship with my mother, my relationship with people at work.

Aideen Ni Riada: 22:06

How has it changed how you’re dealing with things with your with your husband and your mom and at work?

Caryn Rinaldo: 22:14

I um I think I am able to more readily be less defensive and own own my part of you know what’s what’s you know not going well at that time, um, being able to, you know, apologize with sincerity, being able to take a little bit of a risk and look and go, I’m really sorry, that was that was my fault. And there’s no buts about it. That was I shouldn’t have spoken that way. Just when you when you sing and you’re singing in front of someone, and that was you, you really have to lay it out and be vulnerable. And I think really what was happening is well, if I’m being vulnerable with this person who, you know, I haven’t known for very long, you know, who I’ve never met face to face, why, you know, why wouldn’t I do that, you know, with my family members? And, you know, instead of Rick and my mom saying, yeah, you’re right, you were totally wrong there, they just are, you know, graciously accept the apology. And it doesn’t make me feel like, yeah, I was, you know, it makes me feel I was forgiven for being a butthead.

Aideen Ni Riada: 23:33

You know, so I were you more of a perfectionist before? Is that the thing that’s changed?

Caryn Rinaldo: 23:39

Yeah, I would say so. And I don’t know if it’s how much of it is this the the music helped and the singing helped, and also just I’m getting older, but I’ve noticed that there are other people who are my age who still are caught up in so I don’t think it just naturally comes just as you get older, where you go, hey, you know what? Things don’t always go well, and you should just give it a shot and uh, you know, and take take what you get, and if you want to improve on it, try, try again, you know. Um it was the process of learning to sing that really helped that wisdom come for you. It did. I think I think it was coming on its own. But like I said, it doesn’t come. I don’t I see people all the time, and it that doesn’t come for them. You know, I know people that are my age or older, and they’re still just, you know. So I think it was a seed that was there and the the singing and having to do what I was doing to to see if I could create this thing that was really important to me for the the wedding. I think that watered that.

Aideen Ni Riada: 24:45

Um wisdom is an amazing gift. I mean, I remember one of my meditation teachers, if you said, if you want to pray for something, pray for wisdom. Yeah. And I’ve I’ve done that and um because I and I think that that’s been the biggest blessing uh for me in my life is that to I can see the growth in me by just being able to see things from a different perspective. Because you have to see things from more than one perspective in order to be wise. Um you have to be very open to um to changing your mind.

Caryn Rinaldo: 25:22

You know, and I think I think it’s hard to do that, to be open to changing your mind when you never let yourself be vulnerable.

Aideen Ni Riada: 25:30

Yeah. And you I I always would say to students that the message in the song is more important than the singer.

Caryn Rinaldo: 25:38

Yeah.

Aideen Ni Riada: 25:38

And when you can put yourself in that emotion and that feeling that you are wanting to say something, then you it takes some of that uh self-uh criticism and that self-awareness away. And anything that we do well is something that we’ve done many times. Um repetition is a key to any form of competency. And I think a lot of people don’t realize that if they take up any new thing, any crochet, painting, walking, singing, anything, if they do it and repeat that many, many times, they will get better. But a lot of adults feel that if they don’t get better very quickly, that it’s oh, it’s not for me. They don’t give themselves the grace of time to allow themselves go on a journey with something because they yeah, and you did now, but it still was a very short span, and I kind of want to let people know that we didn’t do the two months directly before your wedding. We started like three three months, a little bit over three months beforehand. You worked really hard for the two months, and we recorded at the end of the two months, and then we had that extra you had that month then of grace be kind of between in between having done the recording where it was in the producer’s hands, and they were just we were just getting the the final track ready. And I think that’s important.

Caryn Rinaldo: 27:03

I was wondering if you that’s so important. You you basically laid down the law. You asked me, you know, when is your wedding? And I told you, and you were calculating your head, and you’re like, okay, this is what we should do then. And you explained why you’re like, you’re like, we don’t want you stressing out running up to your wedding. And thank goodness, because I was done with my part of it uh about four weeks before the wedding, maybe five. And I got in the car after that final recording session, and I gripped the wheel and I was like, oh my gosh, what am I gonna do in the car now? And this is a little bit of an aside, but I thought, well, I have to sing the song again because this is what I do in the car. I’d done it, you know, seven days a week for two months. And so I sang the song again. What was so funny is I didn’t know what a relief it was that I was finished with my part because I sang that song more beautifully than I’d ever sung it before. And it was because all of the pressure was off me. Yeah. Now, it might be worth saying, um, we talked a lot about the recording studio. That sounds super intimidating. And you’re not physically here in the Seattle area. So you had instructed me, you know, we need to find somebody who has a recording studio in your geographic area, and you’re gonna want somebody who’s really, really patient with beginning singers. And I think that is crucial. Yeah. Because I, you know, I happen to find somebody who had a studio in his backyard, and you know, he was he was very, I mean, I almost got the feeling he likes being with beginners and stuff. I mean, he he was um Aidine was on the uh screen, she was uh like a Zoom call in, so she was in the studio with us, and um having that kind of person to do it was really important. And then the other thing was uh go twice. Um, don’t don’t go just for one recording session because you get in there and you’re like, what is all this equipment? And then it also feels really intimidating because it feels like you’re in a movie because you’re like, you know, and then you end up holding the holding the uh thing just like a really cool singer where one the headphones are.

Aideen Ni Riada: 29:35

Yeah, one headset is on, one is off. Yeah, you had your Beyonce moment in the studio. Yeah, yeah.

Caryn Rinaldo: 29:43

So, but going back, I think it was what was it, like a week later? Yes, a few days later, you know, because you guys were right. When I walked in for the second time, I was less, less stressed.

Aideen Ni Riada: 29:55

The thing about singing is it’s your voice it will catch and The muscle structure of your throat and your breathing is very much um depends on your emotions and stress. And if you are nervous, overly nervous, it will affect how you sound. So having you go into the recording studio and do the whole song as if you were recording it for the wedding, right? Um, but then putting that aside, you got to hear it, which was really great. So you got to hear, oh, yeah, that’s not too bad, right? And then you had your second chance at it as well, then about a week later, when you were more calm, when you knew what to expect, you’d met the producer in the studio. Pierre was awesome. So having met him twice, um, you know, made a difference too.

Caryn Rinaldo: 30:49

Yeah. Yeah, all of all of that was so so important. What an amazing journey you’ve been on, Karen. It’s it’s been uh totally one of the song says, I get to love you, it’s the best thing I’ll ever do. Uh doing the song is one of the one of the best choices I think I’ve ever made. It’s um, I think it’s it’s a it’s a pivot, it’s been adding to this pivot point in my life. Um yeah, you know, you gave all kinds of ideas about how you can use these types of songs later, you know. You could go on and you can practice much, much, much more, and then you could actually do it live. You said you had a student who wanted to do her song and she volunteered to sing for um coins at a fundraiser. Yeah.

Aideen Ni Riada: 31:40

And then she’s isn’t that right? Yes. My my great friend and student Martina Byrne, and now she raises money with her voice, and she she creates a space where she brings in other, you know, inexperienced or local singers. Um, so I’m really, really proud of the things she’s done.

Caryn Rinaldo: 31:57

Yeah, and that’s just really cool.

Aideen Ni Riada: 31:59

We can surprise ourselves, you know. I think that’s you know, none of us knows what’s going to be happening. But the first, the first foundational step in taking chances in life is self-love and self-acceptance. And to me, having heard that that journey you’ve been on, what warms my heart the most is that you are not a perfectionist the way you used to be. You’re more open to being vulnerable and you’re relating to your life and to the people in your life, even more importantly, with a more open heart.

Caryn Rinaldo: 32:29

Yeah, and it seems crazy that just learning to sing a song could do all of that. And but it it really has. It’s just been this foundational key.

Aideen Ni Riada: 32:42

Um, what would you say to someone listening who has a dream, whether it’s to sing or something else, but it feels too big or too late to start?

Caryn Rinaldo: 32:54

It’s not too late to start. If you’re, you know, I’m I’m probably older than most of the people just because I’m that far along in the spectrum of age. It it’s not too late to start. And even if I were to stop doing it right now, that two months, it was just totally transformational. So if you think you have two months left in your life, yeah, you can you can do whatever you want to do.

Aideen Ni Riada: 33:22

Well, I’m so proud of you, and I’m so pleased that you took this journey. It’s definitely an honor for me to see how you’ve opened up and what how it’s affected your whole life and your relationship. And I think telling your story in this way might inspire someone else to take that leap. And um, I think that’s beautiful inspiration for anyone. And I’m sure people who were at your wedding or who hear about it in your everyday life will feel that inspiration from you as well.

Caryn Rinaldo: 33:52

Yeah, and you know, if anybody is thinking about doing it with you, I cannot um more highly recommend anyone but Adeen. And um I mean, you were absolutely brilliant in the process, and I do not think that just any any teacher can do that, and it’s brought so much more balance into my life, and I think that’s that’s the why I want to continue. So I never would have thought that singing was was it. It’s brought joy and the the thought of more joy in just doing it, and that surprises me. That completely surprises me.

Aideen Ni Riada: 34:37

Thank you everyone for listening today. It’s been an absolute pleasure having Karen talk about her journey. It’s been an honor for me. We look forward to having you listen in again at the um on the next episode of the Resonate Podcast with Aidan. And please remember that you can get in touch with me and that you can take another step if you know a local teacher or if you have something random that you want to do. Maybe you want to do the skydiving that Karen Karen doesn’t want to do. But uh, whatever it is your next step is, I think both myself and Karen would just say, look, just try. Take one little step in the right in that direction, and you never know where it will take you. Absolutely. Bye bye.